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This Cab Driver Built a Global Tech Company, Here’s How He Did It

Sunny Kaila arrived in New Jersey with no English, no degree, and no connections, and spent his first nights driving a yellow cab so he could pay for college in the morning. Twenty years later he threw a party on Liberty Island with 400 of his closest competitors-turned-clients.

With Sunny Kaila1h 8mAmerican Dream · Entrepreneurship · Resilience
The short version

Sunny Kaila grew up on a farm in rural India, arrived in New Jersey as a teenager with no English and no degree, pumped gas, drove a New York City taxi seven nights a week, and put himself through college on the fare money. He founded IT by Design in 2003, built a 24/7 global delivery center in India in 2007, and eventually turned his competitors into clients, growing to 800-plus IT professionals across the US, Canada, India, and the Philippines. His answer to whether the American dream still exists is unambiguous: it exists for growth-mindset people, not victim-mindset people. The through-line of his story is a single discipline he calls 'give up to go up', every ceiling he broke required him to voluntarily surrender a comfortable income first. His closing gift to every listener: live life by design, not by default.

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What you'll take away

9 ideas from this conversation

01

Give up to go up

Every ceiling Sunny broke required him to voluntarily surrender a comfortable income first. He calls it a deliberate trade, not a sacrifice.

02

Borders are someone else's idea

Sunny was born in a village but refused to accept that geography defined his ceiling, first leaving India, then leaving New Jersey, then leaving the US market entirely.

03

Worst-case is your safety net

Before every risky move, Sunny mapped the worst case: 'I can always go back to driving taxi.' Naming the floor gave him permission to jump.

04

Your unique strength converts competitors

The 24/7 global delivery center Sunny built for his own clients became the exact capability his competitors needed most, turning rivals into revenue.

05

Growth mindset is a daily choice

'The smile and what I feel in my heart is a choice,' Sunny says. Courage and positivity, what his faith calls chardi kala, are practices, not personality traits.

06

Struggle is fuel, not evidence of failure

Sunny frames every hardship as an asset: 'Is it your liability or is it your asset?' The question reframes the same event entirely.

07

Don't complain, create

Sunny's immigrant perspective keeps gratitude sharp: knowing how hard life can be elsewhere makes it harder to waste the advantages already in front of you.

08

Grit is a muscle you train

Sunny hikes 10 miles every weekend and is climbing to Everest Base Camp at 50, not for the photo, but to keep his hardship muscle from going soft.

09

Live by design, not default

His closing message: get clear on what will satisfy you on your deathbed, then design backward. You control at least 50%, use it.

Full show notes

#15: This Cab Driver Built a Global Tech Company, Here’s How He Did It

Does the American dream still exist? Sunny Kaila's answer is 100% yes

The most common pushback Sunny hears is some version of: "You came at a lucky time." His response is patient and direct. "It exists for growth-mindset people, not for victim-mindset people." He's not dismissing structural reality, he's pointing at the one variable that was always in his control. When he arrived in New Jersey in the early 1990s he had a high school diploma from a Punjabi village, no English beyond the basics, and no network. He pumped gas his first year because he wasn't old enough to hold a taxi license. The American dream, in Sunny's telling, is less a promise and more a return on a specific kind of effort, the effort of someone who asks "what can I create?" instead of "what is against me?"

From Indian village to New York City cab driver: the origin story

Sunny grew up on a farm in rural Punjab in the 1970s, a place where the expected path was clear: become the next generation of farmers. His grandfather took pride in that continuity. But Sunny's father was open to something different, and Sunny himself was already dreaming at a different scale. "If I do need to leave my village and my friends and my family, why do I need to leave for just the closest city?" he tells Ben. "Why go to New Delhi when I can just go to New York?" He prayed over three slips of paper, medical college in Russia, medical college in India, blue-collar America, and pulled blue-collar America. He took it as direction. Within two weeks of landing in New Jersey he was looking at the Statue of Liberty from the Jersey side because he didn't have $12 for the ferry. Within a year he had his taxi license and was working 5 p.m. to 5 a.m., seven days a week.

How to start a managed services company, the version nobody teaches

Sunny didn't read a playbook. He noticed a billboard for Hudson County Community College on his way into the city, stopped, picked up a catalog, and found a name that looked Punjabi, Dr. J.S. Duko, Assistant Dean of Science and Technology. He made the man his uncle on the spot and asked for guidance. The advice: forget medicine, "be a computer doctor." This was 1995. Windows 95 had just shipped. Sunny enrolled, transferred to New Jersey Institute of Technology, graduated in 2000, and was earning six figures as an IT director within two years. In 2003 he gave that up, again, to found IT by Design in New York City, serving law firms, PR agencies, restaurant chains, and Wall Street hedge funds as their outsourced IT department. The pattern held: give up a comfortable income to reach the next level. "I have to give up to go up," he says. "Money is not that important to me, even taxi drivers can make money." By 2007, Wall Street clients were demanding 24/7 coverage. Hiring night-shift engineers in New York City was nearly impossible. Sunny did what he'd always done: he ignored the border. He opened a global delivery center in India, leveraged the time-zone advantage, and built a capability none of his local competitors could match. They started asking to borrow it. He packaged it as a white-label service. Competitors became clients. "Your unique strength and your unique capability has the power to convert your competitors into clients, into collaborators." Today IT by Design employs 800-plus professionals across the US, Canada, India, and the Philippines and is recognized as the number one privately held MSP of MSPs in its space.

Chardi kala: the gratitude and courage philosophy behind the growth

Ben asks Sunny where his near-constant state of gratitude comes from. Sunny points to two sources. The first is a concept from his Sikh faith: shukrana, acceptance of what is not in your control, combined with chardi kala, the practice of showing up with courage and positivity no matter how hard things get. The second is perspective. "Being born in America is luck," he tells his own kids, who were born here. "You know how many billions of people in this world wish they could be born in America?" He takes them to other countries deliberately. He volunteers at homeless shelters and shares his story there too, not to minimize anyone's struggle, but to redirect attention toward the controllable list. Don't complain. Create. That's the operating principle.

The Statue of Liberty moment, and what it actually means

In 2022, Sunny's annual Build IT Live conference held its off-site party on Liberty Island, the same island he'd looked at from the Jersey side in 1994 because he couldn't afford the ferry. Four hundred-plus customers, a DJ, Gary Vee as keynote speaker, the American flag overhead, the Freedom Tower to the left. Sunny was in tears. "This can only happen in America," he says. "I don't deserve this", and he clarifies immediately: he means it in the sense of receiving more than you ever expected, not in the sense of unworthiness. The gratitude wasn't for his own achievement. It was for his wife, his family, his team members, 80 of whom have been with the company for more than a decade, and for a country that, in his words, "gave me that life, my future, that was not possible in my village in India."

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I have to give up to go up. I had to give up on this income that I was making as a taxi driver to invest in the education. Money is not that important to me, even taxi drivers can make money.
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Your unique strength and your unique capability has the power to convert your competitors into clients, into collaborators.
Sunny Kaila
The smile and what I feel in my heart is a choice. It's my choice. So I choose to be courageous, be positive, and be valuable.
Sunny Kaila
Live life by design, not by default. Think about what you want from this life, what will satisfy you where you feel on your deathbed that you have unleashed your full human potential.
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Meet Sunny Kaila

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Sunny Kaila

Founder & CEO, IT by Design

Sunny Kaila immigrated from a village in Punjab, India as a teenager, worked as a New York City cab driver to fund his computer engineering degree, and founded IT by Design in 2003. The company now employs 800-plus IT professionals across four countries and is recognized as the top privately held MSP of MSPs in the US. Sunny speaks and writes on borderless thinking, lifelong learning, and building a life by design.

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Questions & answers

Does the American dream still exist?
Sunny Kaila's answer is an unqualified yes, with one condition. He says it exists for growth-mindset people, not victim-mindset people. His own story, from a Punjabi farm to an 800-person global tech company, is his evidence. The dream doesn't guarantee outcomes; it rewards a specific orientation toward value creation over complaint.
Does the American dream still exist today?
Sunny argues it does, and that the mechanism hasn't changed: America rewards people who show up with an entrepreneurial mindset and ask how they can create value. He points to street vendors, immigrant business owners, and tech founders as proof that the path is still open. What's changed, he suggests, is that more people approach it with a victim frame rather than a builder frame.
How do you start a managed services company from scratch?
Sunny founded IT by Design in 2003 with no outside funding, serving small businesses in New York City as their outsourced IT department. The turning point came in 2007 when he built a global delivery center in India to provide 24/7 coverage, a capability his competitors lacked. He then white-labeled that capability to those same competitors, turning rivals into recurring revenue. His core advice: identify the one thing you can do that nobody around you can replicate, then sell it outward.
Why does the American dream still exist?
Sunny ties it to a core American value: entrepreneurship is rewarded here in a way it isn't in most countries. He also credits perspective, having grown up in rural India, he sees advantages that people born here often take for granted. His framework is simple: the same hard work produces better results in America because the system is built to reward value creation.
How do immigrants build successful businesses in America?
Sunny's path involved three deliberate moves: borderless thinking (refusing to accept that geography limited his options), lifelong capability-building (driving a cab at night to pay for a computer engineering degree by day), and converting competitors into collaborators. He also credits a willingness to repeatedly give up a comfortable income in exchange for a bigger opportunity, what he calls 'give up to go up.'
What is an MSP of MSPs?
An MSP of MSPs, or master MSP, is a company that provides managed IT services to other managed service providers rather than directly to end businesses. IT by Design built this model by packaging its 24/7 global delivery center as a white-label service that local IT companies could sell under their own brand. Today over 400 MSPs across the US, Canada, and other English-speaking countries use IT by Design's infrastructure.
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Hey,

I just listened to this conversation between Ben Laws and Sunny Kaila, the founder of IT by Design, and I kept thinking of you.

Sunny grew up on a farm in rural India, arrived in New Jersey as a teenager with no English and no degree, drove a New York City taxi at night to pay for college during the day, and built what is now an 800-person global tech company. His answer to whether the American dream still exists: 100%, for growth-mindset people.

The part that stuck with me most was his concept of 'give up to go up', every time he hit a ceiling, he voluntarily surrendered a comfortable income to reach the next level. Simple idea, genuinely hard to do.

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