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How to Become Irreplaceable to a Visionary Founder with Jeremy Bergeron

Jeremy Bergeron had never been a chief of staff. Leor Weinstein had never hired one. What happened when Jeremy shot his shot anyway is a masterclass in presence, trust, and becoming irreplaceable to a visionary founder.

With Jeremy Bergeron1h 54mChief of Staff · Leadership · Founders
The short version

A chief of staff for a visionary founder is not an executive assistant and not a COO. Jeremy Bergeron describes the role as a blend of Rick Rubin's presence, Brené Brown's vulnerability, and Matt Mochary's strategy, someone who holds space, builds trust on the founder's behalf, and knows what's needed before the founder does. Jeremy got the role by listening closely to Leor Weinstein during a 30-day unpaid audit, noticing the gap, and simply asking. The key ingredients he looks for in any hire are empathy and compassion first, horsepower second. When those elements exist across a team, the founder can take bigger risks, expand capacity, and grow revenue under management from 100 million toward tens of billions.

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What you'll take away

9 ideas from this conversation

01

Presence outperforms productivity

Jeremy's first job was to witness Leor across 30 days of meetings, not to produce, but to hold space. That presence built the trust that unlocked everything else.

02

Create the role before it exists

Leor said the role was too hard to hire for. Jeremy's response was to offer himself for 30 days, unpaid. The role became real because someone stepped into it.

03

Listen to the space between the words

Jeremy says he paid attention to what Leor wasn't saying. The gap he heard, no number two, was the opportunity he seized.

04

Empathy and compassion come first

Leor doesn't ask about resumes. He listens for heart connection. Jeremy says empathetic leadership is the ingredient that lets teams take bigger risks and build bigger things.

05

Hire for a lifetime, not a season

"We laughingly say we're hiring for a lifetime." The filter isn't the role, it's whether you can see yourself working with this person for years and years.

06

Your whole resume makes sense in hindsight

Google, mental health, media, none of it seemed connected until Jeremy stepped into the chief of staff seat. Every background becomes relevant when the role is broad enough.

07

The number two expands the number one's capacity

Before Jeremy, Leor had deal flow but no throughput. With a trusted number two, he could take on more risk, more ventures, and more growth simultaneously.

08

Safety is the cauldron for big ideas

When trust and empathy exist across a team, people build things without being asked. Jeremy calls it the cauldron, the conditions where really big stuff gets born.

09

Take the shot even when it feels off-brand

Jeremy admits asking for the role was an upper limit moment. He'd never created a position for himself before. He did it anyway, and calls it the best Hail Mary he's thrown.

Full show notes

How to Become Irreplaceable to a Visionary Founder with Jeremy Bergeron

What does a chief of staff do for a visionary founder?

Most people have heard the title in a political context. In the startup and founder world, it means something different, and according to Jeremy Bergeron, it looks different depending on who you're talking to. Jeremy describes his version of the role as three people having a baby: Rick Rubin, who holds space for greatness without getting in the way; Brené Brown, who brings vulnerability and trust as table stakes; and Matt Mochary, the strategist who coaches fast-growth business athletes. "It looks and feels different depending on the day," Jeremy says. "Different businesses, different challenges, different needs."

For Leor Weinstein, serial polymath, founder of CTO X, and what Ben Laws calls "the Willy Wonka of the technology world", the chief of staff role had never existed. Leor had operators, teams, and deal flow. What he didn't have was a trusted number two who could go in front of him, behind him, and beside him across a portfolio of ten-plus businesses.

How to become a chief of staff without the job title

Jeremy didn't apply for the role. He invented it. After meeting Leor at a conference in Austin, staying in touch, and eventually spending a day at his house listening to back-to-back meetings, Jeremy noticed something: "He had no one in that seat." When Leor said hiring for the role was too hard, Jeremy's response was immediate. "Why don't I just jump into that role? I've never been a chief of staff. Admittedly, you've never hired for it. So we're already batting a hundred there."

He asked for 30 days, unpaid, with access to every meeting. Leor said okay. Within two weeks, Jeremy knew the role was his. At the end of the month, Leor paid him retroactively and texted: "Let's do this for a couple decades."

What a chief of staff does in a startup or founder-led company

The practical answer: throughput. Jeremy describes himself as a who-not guy, someone who knows enough people across enough industries to find the right Avenger for any problem. He filters candidates not by resume but by heart connection. "We laughingly say we're hiring for a lifetime," he says. "We only want to work with people that we love."

Beyond recruiting, he's in vendor meetings, C-suite conversations, and all-hands calls, representing Leor when Leor isn't there, and building trust on his behalf. The result is that Leor can take on more risk, more ventures, and more complexity than he could alone. The portfolio has crossed 100 million in revenue under management across ten-plus businesses, and Jeremy projects tens of billions within a decade.

Chief of staff vs. executive assistant vs. COO

Jeremy is careful to separate the roles. An executive assistant manages logistics. A COO runs operations. A chief of staff, in his framing, does something harder to define: they expand the founder's nervous system. "It's a much different energy," he says. "Founders won't even know the value it can bring to their nervous system, to their team's nervous system." He's sat in meditation with Leor. He's been in raw accounting meetings where his own nervous system was stretched. He's the person who knows what Leor needs before Leor knows it.

Why empathy and compassion beat the resume in the age of AI

As AI accelerates every category of business, Jeremy and Leor are doubling down on something AI can't replicate: empathetic leadership. Leor doesn't ask candidates about their experience. He has a heart-centered conversation and listens for specific things. "The resume, he doesn't even care about it," Jeremy says. "It's almost secondary."

The result is a core team where everyone is wired with empathy and compassion alongside high performance. That combination creates safety, and safety creates the conditions for people to build things without being asked. "Because we have safety, because we have trust, from that place, watch what we can create," Jeremy says. "Watch what can bubble to the surface."

How to hire a chief of staff, or become one

For founders considering the role, Jeremy's advice is practical: use an LLM to build a job description based on your actual challenges, your team, and your vision. Put it out there. The people you attract will surprise you. You might find someone like Jeremy, someone who's never held the title but is wired for it, or you might find a seasoned operator. Either way, the filter is the same: frequency match, heart connection, and the ability to see yourself working with this person for years. "You might even find a Jeremy," he says. "Someone who's like, look, I've never done this, but I'm wired for this, and here's why."

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If three people had a baby, it would be Rick Rubin, Brené Brown, and Matt Mochary. That's how I describe my role as chief of staff.
Jeremy Bergeron
I said, 'Hey, you don't have a chief of staff? Interesting.' And then what came out of my mouth was just, 'Why don't I just jump into that role?'
Jeremy Bergeron
I want you to give me 30 days. I don't want you to pay me anything. Just add me to all of your meetings because I have no clue, I want to audit everything you're up to.
Jeremy Bergeron
He's given me the keys to everything. He's like, 'Here, these are the keys to my whole life. I trust you with my wife, my children, my businesses.'
Jeremy Bergeron
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Meet Jeremy Bergeron

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Jeremy Bergeron

Chief of Staff to Leor Weinstein, serial polymath founder and CEO of CTO X

Jeremy Bergeron spent years inside Fortune 500 media, mental health, and Google-adjacent ecosystems before a gut-level yes landed him in an undefined seat beside one of the most leveraged founders he had ever encountered. He describes his role as a blend of Rick Rubin's witnessing, Brené Brown's vulnerability, and Matt Mochary's strategy. A year in, the portfolio he helps steward has crossed 100 million in revenue under management and is tracking toward tens of billions.

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Questions & answers

What does a chief of staff do for a CEO?
A chief of staff for a CEO acts as a trusted number two who expands the founder's capacity, attending meetings, building relationships on the CEO's behalf, identifying the right people for the right problems, and holding space for the CEO's vision. Jeremy Bergeron describes it as a blend of strategic support, emotional intelligence, and operational awareness. The role looks different in every company depending on the founder's needs and the stage of the business.
What does a chief of staff do at a startup?
At a startup, a chief of staff often wears more hats than in a large corporation. Jeremy's version includes recruiting the right people, representing the founder in vendor and partner conversations, filtering opportunities by heart connection rather than just financials, and knowing what the founder needs before they ask. The role is especially valuable when a founder is running multiple ventures simultaneously and needs someone who can move things forward without constant direction.
How do you become a chief of staff?
Jeremy Bergeron became one by asking. He spent a day listening to a founder's back-to-back meetings, noticed there was no number two in the seat, and offered himself for 30 days unpaid to audit everything. He had never held the title before. His advice: look for a founder whose work draws you in, listen carefully for the gaps, and be willing to take the shot even if the role doesn't exist yet. The fit matters more than the title.
What is the difference between a chief of staff and an executive assistant?
An executive assistant manages logistics, scheduling, and communications. A chief of staff operates at a strategic level, attending high-stakes meetings, building trust with external partners, identifying key hires, and expanding the founder's capacity to take on more. Jeremy describes the chief of staff role as something that affects the founder's nervous system and the team's nervous system in a way that an EA role simply doesn't.
How do you hire a chief of staff?
Jeremy recommends using an LLM to build a job description based on your actual challenges, your current team, and where you're headed. Then put it out there and pay attention to who shows up. He says the filter shouldn't be the resume, it should be the heart connection. Ask yourself whether you can see working with this person for years. The right person may have never held the title but will be wired for it.
Why is the chief of staff role hard to hire for?
Leor Weinstein told Jeremy it was too hard to hire for because the role is undefined, highly contextual, and requires a rare combination of strategic thinking, emotional intelligence, and genuine trust. There's no standard job description and no obvious career path that leads to it. Jeremy says the best chiefs of staff often come from unexpected backgrounds, the role only makes sense in hindsight, when you can see how every previous experience prepared them for it.
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What if the best career move you ever made was a role that didn't exist yet?

Jeremy Bergeron had never been a chief of staff. Leor Weinstein had never hired one. When Jeremy spent a day listening to Leor's back-to-back meetings and noticed there was no number two in the seat, he did something most people wouldn't: he asked for the job on the spot, offered 30 days unpaid, and said yes before he knew what he was saying yes to.

A year later, the portfolio they run together has crossed 100 million in revenue under management, and Jeremy says tens of billions is the trajectory.

In this episode of the MaxLife Podcast, Jeremy breaks down what a chief of staff actually does for a visionary founder, why empathy and compassion beat the resume in the age of AI, and how to become irreplaceable to someone who's already exceptional.

If you're a founder who's hit a ceiling, or a high performer who knows you're built to be someone's number two, this one is for you.

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Hey,

I just listened to this conversation between Ben Laws and Jeremy Bergeron on the MaxLife Podcast and thought of you immediately.

Jeremy is the chief of staff to Leor Weinstein, a serial polymath founder running ten-plus businesses with 100 million in revenue under management. He got the role by noticing a gap, asking for 30 days unpaid, and trusting his gut.

The episode covers what a chief of staff actually does for a CEO, why the best hires aren't found on resumes, and what it really takes to become irreplaceable to a visionary founder.

Worth an hour of your time: https://maxlifecoach.com/episodes/how-to-become-irreplaceable-to-a-visionary-founder

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